Courtney Malone

If it ain’t broke, it doesn’t have enough features yet.

Upgrade Time (Updated)

Filed under: Geekstuff — Courtney at 11:26 pm on Monday, August 27, 2007

heck yeah
4 cores and 6 gb
of 64 bit goodness

I was regularly using more than 2gb of ram on my main desktop, and swapping was killing me. So I decided to decided to add more, however there was a problem; the 32 bit version of Windows XP i was using does not support more than 4gb. Even worse, due to the way memory ranges are allocated for device drivers, I would not be able to use more than 2.5gb on my machine (a lot of IO cards using mem ranges, and 2 256mb video cards). Windows XP used to support more than 4gb of address space by using a mode called Page Address Extension, however Mircrosoft removed this support in SP2! Apparently driver writers were not thorough in their assumptions about mappable ranges and this was causing a lot of issues with supporting larger ram configs. Keep in mind that 32 bit versions of 2000 and 2003 all support more than 4gb of ram.

This meant it was time to consider a 64 bit version of Windows. A quick look at Windows XP Pro 64 indicates that it breaks everything and drivers are hard to come by. So I opted for Vista Ultimate 64bit. I heartily recommend buying the OEM version from Newegg since its half the cost of retail. A quick check revealed that all of my hardware would have drivers.

Upgrade Parts
The goods
Of course, one of my problems is “If it ain’t broke, it doesn’t have enough features yet” so rather than just doubling the ram to 4gb, I opted to make it 6…oh and replace those aging Opteron 244s while I’m at it with 2 dual core 275s.

Before
Before the upgrade

The machine was a bit dirty before the upgrade, and I opted not to remove the bar in the photo since I have a ton of cables on the underside of it (scsi, power, fan speed, etc).

Socket #1
Socket 1 after install

All the slots filled by cpu 1, clearner, but not quite clean enough.

Bios
Good news
After flashing all the various bits of firmware, and installing everything it was time to cross my fingers and boot it up. Success, yes I know those RAM latencies wouldn’t be acceptable to an overclocker, but socket 940 requires registered/buffered ECC, so there isn’t any point in blowing money on OMG BLING RAM

Installer
Installer

The install of Vista was insanely easy; boot from the dvd, partition the disk, enter the key and let it go. It was pretty quick too, took less than an hour.

Old cpus
The old Opteron 244s (1.8 Ghz)

Drives
Drives
A vanity shot of the drives

Polar Challenge
Polar Challenge
Update:Bonus! I got a 20-30 degree celsius drop in cpu temps, an 8 percent drop in power load at the UPS and most importantly, I can play the 1080p h.264 version of Top Gear’s Polar Challenge.

3 Comments »

Comment by christopher

August 28, 2007 @ 3:26 pm

I’m running WinXP 64, and while it has its limits, they are fewer than Vista’s 64-bit limits. I can use Win2k3 Server drivers fairly regularly, so I haven’t run into a driver issue yet. Also, finding a firewall/anti-v combo is equally hard for WinXP 64 as it is for Vista 64 thus far, so I think your upgrade rationale had some weakness in it.

-C

Comment by Courtney

August 28, 2007 @ 3:52 pm

Christopher wrote:

I’m running WinXP 64, and while it has its limits, they are fewer than Vista’s 64-bit limits. I can use Win2k3 Server drivers fairly regularly, so I haven’t run into a driver issue yet. Also, finding a firewall/anti-v combo is equally hard for WinXP 64 as it is for Vista 64 thus far, so I think your upgrade rationale had some weakness in it.

I disagree, I have at least 3 devices with no xp64 or 2003 64 drivers, and I have more than a dozen devices on the home network so firewalling/nat/dhcp etc is handled by a standalone OpenSolaris box running ipf which is a much more flexible solution. As for the antivirus, I have yet to find a real time av system that isn’t more trouble than its worth. On the off chance that I notice something odd, I would rather just reboot and run a scan from a cd/dvd/usb stick.

-Courtney

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February 6, 2008 @ 5:45 pm

windows vista 64 bit ultimate oem…

yes indeed……

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